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128 · Let's Talk About Tesla

2017-09-19 · 30 minUnderstandRadar

In one sentence: Using Tesla (about $389 a share, losing money, a market value near $65 billion) as the case, Phil explains why a company you love and a disrupting industry can't be valued with Rule #1 tools, why that puts it in the too-hard box, and how to treat such bets as separate "angel-style" money.

Key ideas

How it maps to RuleOne

Buffett, Munger and Graham links

Words to know

Try this

Open /stock/TICKER/ for a company with negative or short earnings history. Note whether the sticker price can be computed at all. Then write what ten years of data would let you see that five do not.

Check yourself

  1. Why doesn't a $389 share price mean Tesla is "more expensive" than GM at $38?
    AnswerPrice per share depends on the number of shares. Compare market value to earnings: Tesla had losses, GM had large earnings.
  2. Why does Phil want ten years of history?
    AnswerIt spans a recession, showing how the business and management behaved under stress.
  3. Where does Tesla belong for a Rule #1 investor, and what is the alternative?
    AnswerIn the too-hard box; or as a small speculative bet with money you can afford to lose, separate from core holdings.

Short quotes

"You can't just go buy stuff you love. It just doesn't work that way." (Phil, ~22:30, auto-transcribed)

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AI study notes from an automatic transcript. Names and figures may be misheard, and quotes are short excerpts for study. Not investment advice.